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Saturday, November 08, 2008


Fighting Proposition 8

LOS ANGELES, CA - NOVEMBER 6:  Police officers...Getty ImagesI love love LOVE the gays...especially when they get angry. The growing resistance and protest against the heinous Proposition 8 in California seems to be growing every day; it's reminding me of the fierce passions of ACT-UP and Queer Nation in the 80's and 90's. (And about time, too...the LGBT community has gotten far too complacent, if you ask me. Straight people will give us our rights if, and only if, we stand up and take them.)

Among my favorite ideas for fighting the power:
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sigh. So sorry this happened. Back to work, I guess. I am a straight married person who met her husband thanks to a mutual friend who is a gay man. I intend to keep talking about this outrage, because...it stinks. This is my issue, too. We are all connected.

11/9/08, 1:39 PM  
Blogger FleshPresser said...

I agree with "myfatcat" - be careful when you generalize that "straight" people don't want to give you your rights, lest you come off sounding similar to the homophobe who generalizes that all gay people are the same.

There are MANY, MANY straight people who are just as outraged as you are about this... not because it affects us directly, of course, but because it is a basic issue of civil rights that MUST be addressed. I don't have to be African-American to see the inequality that the African-American community has fought for far too long... and neither do you, right?

11/10/08, 12:27 PM  
Blogger ModFab said...

Fleshpresser, you can turn this back on me if you wish...but let's get clear on the FACTS about who the bigots are in this situation. It's not gay, or lesbian, or bisexual, or transgendered people. Not only because the exit polls prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that a majority of heterosexuals supported Prop 8. But because LGBTs have never, ever, ever tried to deny straight people their basic human freedoms. We have NEVER told straight people they couldn't be themselves, or have equal treatment under the law.

The people who made Prop 8 a reality were straight people. We know this. This is a fact. It is not a generalization or a prejudice on my part. It is a fact.

Does this make all straight people criminally unethical? No. And I appreciate your statement of solidarity. But I'd appreciate it even more if every straight person who shares an outrage over this were to attend the protests, send money to the repeal effort, and work everyday to have the other 48 states that deny gay citizens a fundamental fairness change their laws.

I'm going to the protest here in NYC on Wednesday. And yes, I'll be most curious to see how many heterosexuals show up to stand alongside me and my LGBT family. Very curious indeed.

11/10/08, 5:34 PM  
Blogger FleshPresser said...

Please believe... I am not turning this against you in any way shape or form. I am simply stating that by using generic statements, you MAY alienate those who actually support you. You say yourself, of course, that not all straight people are criminally unethical. So, why address the problem as such... that's my ONLY point.

Whenever ANY of us target or try to single out a singular group as being "to blame", two things happen. First, we wrongly accuse those who may not be guilty. Secondly, we perhaps excuse people who should be held accountable.

The only division, perhaps, of people on this issue should be those who are "right" and who are "wrong."

Were a protest happening as close to me as it is to you, trust me... I would be standing there. And trust me when I say that I've written a check to Courage Campaign in the last week. I can't work every day to change the laws, save for doing the same thing that you're doing... to speak out every time I get the chance.

11/10/08, 9:20 PM  

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