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Monday, February 18, 2008


Al Gore, Save Us From Ourselves!

The tale just keeps twisting, doesn't it? From The Guardian:

Al Gore, who lost to George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential election, is becoming a key potential power broker in the increasingly bitter battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to win the Democrat nomination. Gore emerged yesterday as a possible mediator who could negotiate a resolution if the primary campaign ends in a stalemate and has to be decided by the party convention, where divisions are likely to run deep.

There seem to be so many competing narratives right now in the mainstream media: Obama has it wrapped up (Narrative A), Clinton can still win it outright (Narrative B), the superdelegates will decide (Narrative C), and now Narrative D: only Al Gore can save our country. Pretty marvelous in terms of karma, huh? Why pre-fabricated line of media bull are you buying these days?



Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's always going to be a certain amount of speculation by the media, that's what drives stories. However, it's still to soon to tell. After March 4th, the Democratic party will be in a better position to make that determination. Nobody wants this to go to the "super delegates" to make the decision. When that happens, the camp on the losing side will somehow feel disenfranchised. In large part, you still have to handle 1.2 million voters from Michigan and Florida and what to do with their delegates. Ultimately, mediation may be the only solution. Fingers crossed that the party can remain whole, regardless of who wins.

2/18/08, 4:40 AM  
Blogger ModFab said...

I agree with almost everything you've said. My two quibbles are that we shouldn't see March 4 as a be-all and end-all...the primary season has been a series of chapters, and it should remain that way...no more, no less.

The other thing is about Michigan and Florida. Like it or not, the Democratic Party threw them out, and the state parties there were okay with it (they went ahead and violated the rules and held their parties earlier). I think it was the wrong decision for the states to make, but it's done. To try to break the rules again, after no one but Clinton campaigned (and she barely did), would be an abominable abuse of the system. I'm sorry for the voters and party leaders of Michigan and Florida, but they knew what they were getting into, and they did it anyway. Now they must reap what they sowed.

2/19/08, 12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As you said, this is just another chapter in this ongoing debate. However, I think you're wrong about Florida and Michigan. Personally, I think they need to go back and hold caucuses again. All this nonsense that they "can't" get it done, is baloney. If something isn't done about those delegates, I can promise you there will be a lawsuit by the citizens that participated in those two states. I think there is a constitutional argument to be made here. Frankly, I never understood the DMC's position about penalizing them for holding their primaries earlier. That's just silly. Who cares when they do it.

2/19/08, 8:02 AM  
Blogger ModFab said...

The one who really cared was South Carolina, I think. I agree with you its problematic, and that a lawsuit is possible. But to only do that AFTER the fact, AFTER they broke party rules, seems really unsupportable morally. It's like stealing a television, and then demanding to not go to jail for it.

2/19/08, 11:34 AM  
Blogger FleshPresser said...

I would argue that the results of the elections that have already happened should be thrown out in Michigan and Florida. No attempt to seat these delegates should be made.

However, I KNOW I'd be pissed if the DNC passed some rule that made MY vote not count in the Primary. Not going back, getting BOTH candidate's names ON the ballot, and allowing BOTH candidates to campaign fairly in the state seems like the only way to resolve the issue with as little injury to the Party as possible.

The "punishment" to Florida and Michigan has already been inflicted... neither state has any early bearing on the race, as a result of the delegates not being counted. Michigan and Florida wanted to get ahead... DNC said no... and as a result, other states provided the early momentum for candidates and shaped the race as it stands now.

Not counting the people's voice in Florida and Michigan AT ALL, however, is just asking for trouble.

In Kindergarten, if you tried to butt in line, you got sent to the end of the line... but you still got to stand in line.

2/19/08, 12:42 PM  
Blogger DBK said...

Folks, this is just the Democrats figuring out how to take a year when a halfway decent candidate could destroy the Republican nominee and screw it up so that McCain has a chance.

McCain: The Right Man for the Twentieth Century.

2/19/08, 3:19 PM  
Blogger John T said...

Oh my god, I would never stop smiling if Al Gore were elected president-I spent almost the entirety of last year holding off on making an endorsement in hopes that he would run and we'd have that Gore/Boxer ticket I sometimes can still dream about.

2/19/08, 9:25 PM  

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